Are the Mets better with a first-time or experienced manager?

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The New York Mets are one of four teams that needed to search for a new manager this offseason. They've decided to go with Buck Showalter, the most experienced of the final candidates.

The finaal three were an interesting mix of candidates. What made the list of finalists surprising was because of the fact that two of the candidates, Joe Espada and Matt Quatraro, were entry-level candidates, having never managed in the major leagues before. Owner Steve Cohen has asserted several times that he prefers a manager with experience, yet it appears there is an ideological divide regarding the direction the Mets should go with their managerial vacancy.

Although the debate in the Mets front office could be broken down in several ways, it ultimately boils down to several rigid, uncompromising dichotomies: The difference between experienced and entry-level and old-school and modern, is what lies at heart of this managerial debate, and who the Mets choose will be a strong indicator of how Cohen wants to lead his organization into the future.

The Mets’ final managerial candidates reveal that the debate between old-school traditionalists and analytical modernists is still dividing front offices today.

On the one hand, you have Showalter, an experienced manager who won Manager of the Year three times and was at the helm for four different ball clubs (Diamondbacks, Yankees, Rangers, and Orioles). Showalter has been characterized as an old school manager, having managed in the 1990s and early 2000s when the game was played differently. Even in his most recent stop with the Orioles, Showalter managed the game in a more traditional way: He rarely relied on analytics in making in-game decisions, often going with his gut based on how the game unfolded.

Espada and Quatraro, on the other hand, represent the next wave of managerial candidates, who are more tactical in their decision-making and rely more on sabermetrics and analytics when making in-game decisions, regardless how the game is going. This new approach has been embraced by most managers and players currently in the big leagues, and it has led to some dramatic changes in how the game has been played. Critics of analytics argue that the league’s reverence bordering on cult-like fanaticism to analytics is turning fans away from the game, eradicating all the raw emotion and action that made the game great when it was first popularized.

The purpose of highlighting this current cultural schism in the sport in the broader context of American culture is to provide the background information for the current debate going on in the Mets front office. Traditional or modern? Old-school philosophy or analytical devotion?

While this debate leads to some interesting philosophical arguments that can be applied to bigger issues that transcend the game of baseball, it doesn’t answer the question of what is best for the Mets. Is it better for the Mets to go with a first-time manager for that fresh perspective, or a seasoned veteran who needs no learning on the job and knows how to get results?

Therefore, to answer this question, I decided to take a historical examination of all the Mets managers in franchise history and explore whether the team has been better off with a rookie or experienced manager.

For the purposes of this historical study, a rookie manager is defined as a manager whose first MLB managerial gig was with the Mets. Managing in the Minor Leagues or another professional baseball league before the Mets does not qualify. An experienced manager in this study was defined as a manager who managed another MLB club before managing the Mets.

Davey Johnson was the Mets manager when the team won their second championship in 1986.
Davey Johnson was the Mets manager when the team won their second championship in 1986. / Patrick McDermott/GettyImages

Exploring the Data

There have been 23 managers hired in the Mets franchise history (not counting their manager for the 2022 season). This number includes all interim managers and those who were hired but never managed a game for the team (Carlos Beltran). The first manager in Mets history was Casey Stengel, and their most recent one was Luis Rojas.

For this study, I focused primarily on the results: I examined each manager’s win-loss record while at the helm, making note of when the Mets made the postseason and won the World Series.

There have been 12 experienced managers in the team’s franchise history. They are Casey Stengel, Gil Hodges, Yogi Berra, Roy McMillan, George Bamberger, Frank Howard, Jeff Torborg, Dallas Green, Bobby Valentine, Art Howe, Jerry Manuel, and Terry Collins. Between the twelve of them, they have managed a total of 5,781 games. Their combined record was 2,707-3,074, with a winning percentage of .4682.

The Mets have hired many experienced and rookie managers in their franchise history, all of whom have yielded both positive and negative results.

On the other end, the Mets have hired 11 rookie managers. They are Wes Westrum, Salty Parker, Joe Frazier, Joe Torre, Davey Johnson, Bud Harrelson, Mike Cubbage, Willie Randolph, Mickey Callaway, Carlos Beltran, and Luis Rojas. In total, the rookie managers led the team over 3,697 games. Their overall record was 1844-1853, with a winning percentage of .4987. Although rookie managers account for less games than the experienced managers, they get the edge here.

Next, playoff appearances were examined. Were experienced or rookie managers at the helm when the Mets made the postseason? The Mets were first founded in 1962. The 2021 season was the franchise’s 59th season of existence. In those 59 seasons, the team has made the postseason nine times (1969, 1973, 1986, 1988, 1999, 2000, 2006, 2015, and 2016). Six of those playoff appearances came when the Mets were being managed by an experienced manager while three playoff appearances were under the helm of a rookie manager. As a result, it can be concluded that experienced managers have delivered more postseason appearances than rookie managers, but they have also managed 2,084 more games than the rookie managers. Rookie managers also made up for approximately 25 Mets seasons while experienced managers made up around 34 seasons. By percentages, experienced managers led their team to the postseason 17.6% (6 out of 34) of the time, whereas rookie managers brought the Mets to the postseason 12% (3 out of 25) of the time. As a result, experienced managers still get the edge.

Last, World Series championships were examined. The Mets have won two World Series championships in their franchise history (1969 and 1986). Gil Hodges was the manager of the 1969 World Series team and Davey Johnson was the manager of the 1986 Mets. Based on how managers are defined in this study, Hodges is credited as experienced and Johnson as a rookie, making it a draw between the two types of managers in regards to winning championships.

So who are the Mets better off with, a rookie or experienced manager? Deciding that a draw regarding World Series championships will make it harder to come to an answer, I decided to break it down further.

Terry Collins was one of three Mets managers who lost a World Series while managing the club.
Terry Collins was one of three Mets managers who lost a World Series while managing the club. / Rich Schultz/GettyImages

Breaking The Tie

To break the tie, I also looked at when the Mets made it to the World Series but lost. Although appearances do not necessarily translate to championships, the amount of times a manager led the team to a World Series can be an indication of the health and talent level of a ball club, making it an indicator of team success.

World Series appearances are also good from a morale standpoint. It can serve as an indication to fans that the team is on the right track, and that they simply need one more piece to get over the hump. Considering that the Mets have seen little postseason success, a World Series appearance would still qualify as a successful season.

The Mets, as a team, have competed in five World Series, going 2-for-5. In their three losses (1973, 2000, and 2015), they were all being managed by an experienced manager (first Yogi Berra, then Bobby Valentine, and last Terry Collins). Therefore, the all-time record for experienced Mets managers in a World Series is 1-for-4, while rookie Mets managers are 1-for-1.

Experienced managers have brought the Mets to more World Series appearances, but only one of them managed to deliver a championship to Queens.

Upon examining these metrics, several observations can be concluded: 1) The Mets have selected more experienced managers than rookie managers in their franchise history, and 2) Although rookie managers have compiled slightly more respectable regular season records, experienced managers have been more successful in leading the Mets to the World Series and in the postseason.

The Mets have already made their decision as to who will be the club's 24th manager in franchise history. With Showalter as the choice, it's up to his performance to break the tie as to whether or not experienced skippers are the way to go.

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