3 NY Mets managers whose records are not indicative of their value to the club

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Judging a manager is not always quantifiable by their won-loss record. Sometimes a manager can be good, but is just not afforded the players to accomplish much and stand up to the competition. And sometimes a team is loaded with enough good players that the team can win in spite of the guy at the helm. The New York Mets have had a few that can fall into both of those categories.

Casey Stengel…well…he was old and over the hill by the time he got the call to skipper the Mets in 1962. In nine seasons managing the Brooklyn Dodgers (three seasons) and the Boston Bees/Braves (six seasons) he has a winning percentage of .452 and finished over .500 only once during that time. Suddenly, when he replaced Bucky Harris as Yankees manager for the 1949 season, he was a genius.

In 12 seasons with the Bronx Bombers, he had a winning percentage of .623, capturing 10 American League Pennants and seven World Series Titles. Only four times did the Yankees finish below 97 wins during that span, and only once with less than 92 victories. An amazing run that ended after the 1960 season.

And, then, came the New York Mets. Casey has his No. 37 hanging out there at Citifield. So…what does that mean? Well…in the Old Professor’s time managing the Mets – three plus seasons - he had a .302 winning percentage. In the three full seasons, he never won more than 53 games. Pitiful. Lovable…but pitiful.

Casey Stengel gets a pass when considering Mets managers because it’s really unfair to attempt to figure out if he was good, or bad, or just hanging around to fill the void while the organization established its foundation.

The New York Mets have had two managers who had a winning record despite their ineptitude, and one whose record doesn’t clearly give credit where credit is due.

1) Bud Harrelson, 145-129

Bud Harrelson is one of the most beloved players in Mets history. He was a hardnosed player who could field the shortstop position with the best of them. Harrelson was a part of the Mets core – with Tom Seaver, Jerry Grote, and Cleon Jones – who were good and knew how to play the game correctly.

Unfortunately for Harrelson, it did not translate well as manager.

Harrelson took over for Davey Johnson 42 games (a 20-22 start) into the 1990 season after it was perceived the Johnson had lost control of the clubhouse. The Mets would go 72-49, a .592 winning percentage the rest of the way.

The Mets were loaded with Darryl Strawberry, Kevin McReynolds, and Howard Johnson in the lineup and still had Doc Gooden, Ron Darling, Sid Fernandez, David Cone, and Frank Viola in the starting rotation. How could you NOT win? But they didn’t.

And then in 1991, it was Harrelson who actually did lose control of the clubhouse and failed to make it through the season. He was replaced by Mike Cubbage with just seven games to go. He would finish his stint as Mets manager with a .529 winning percentage.

2) Mickey Callaway, 163-161

Mickey Callaway is a forgettable figure in Mets history. His hiring as Mets manager was puzzling when it happened, and even more puzzling when realizing what was there when you pulled back the curtain.

Callaway was given his chance with the Mets based on the credit bestowed upon him by Cleveland Indians (now Guardians) manager Terry Francona. Francona said that the Indians won the 2016 World Series because of Callaway and his work with the pitching staff.

The Mets were lured by that as the rotation had Jacob deGrom, Noah Syndergaard, Zack Wheeler, and Steve Matz. Callaway was expected to nurture them along and bring a championship that they were so close to just a few seasons prior. And it didn’t go as planned.

Callaway got off to a quick 11-1 start in his season (2018), yet finished under .500. He would finish 10 games over .500 the next season, but the pitching staff – his supposed niche – finished with a team ERA of 4.24 and each of the starters performed well below expectations.

Callaway had never managed before, and he has never managed again. Off the field controversies aside, Callaway was not the right person to lead the Mets, even though he would finish his two-season job two game over at .503.

3) Terry Collins, 551-583

Terry Collins probably deserves a bit more admiration from Mets fans than he gets. Nobody has managed more seasons and more games in Mets history than Collins (1,134). And only Davey Johnson has won more games as Mets manager (Johnson 595, Collins 551).

Collins came to the Mets with a fiery reputation. He would begin his managerial career with five straight winning seasons, the first three with the Houston Astros and then with the Los Angeles Angels…each time earning a second place finish. His third season with the Angels was disastrous as he lost the clubhouse and the players actually petitioned ownership to get rid of him.

After a two-year stint in Japan, Collins was hired to be the minor league field coordinator for the Mets. And after one season in that role, he was named manager before the 2011 season.

Collins was charged with bringing along the young players and nurturing their development. And even while the organization was dealing with outside problems, it culminated in a World Series appearance in 2015.

During his seven seasons, Collins would finish only two seasons over .500. Collins would retire as Mets manager with a winning percentage of .486…a record of 551-583. And, yet, he would be one of five Mets managers to take the team to the World Series, along with Gil Hodges (1969), Yogi Berra (1973), Davey Johnson (1986), and Bobby Valentine (2000). Collins would have the lowest winning percentage of them all…yet he is right up there with them where it counts…a trip to the World Series.

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