Jun 2, 2014; Philadelphia, PA, USA; New York Mets manager Terry Collins (10) leans on the batting cage and watches his team during batting practice before a game against the Philadelphia Phillies at Citizens Bank Park. Mandatory Credit: Bill Streicher-USA TODAY Sports

Sandy Alderson gives Terry Collins a vote of confidence. Does it matter?


While speaking at Citi Field on Tuesday afternoon, Mets general manager Sandy Alderson said that manager Terry Collins isn’t “going anywhere.”

The Mets, mired in a six-game losing streak and 13-24 over their last 27 games, are in a downward spiral, and that has led some to speculate about Collins’ job security.

Alderson’s comments Tuesday put a public face and a declaration on the “will Collins get fired” question, but did it really settle anything or translate to Collins actually having job security?

There are two separate things to take into account here, things that people often have a tough time separating.

1. The Mets, as of now, are poorly constructed at the major league level. Ownership hasn’t provided the front office with the proper budget, and the front office hasn’t done a good job with the money it has been provided. That is not Terry Collins’ fault.

2. Terry Collins has never been viewed as even an average in-game manager. His lineup decisions, bullpen moves, and other in-game maneuvers have always left a lot to be desired.

The point? It’s possible – and common – to have both a poor team and a poor manager.

No one is blaming Terry Collins for all of the Mets’ ills, but he is certainly a contributing factor to their poor performance. To put it another way – dismissing a poor manager is permissible simply due to the fact that he is, indeed, a poor manager.

In addition to Collins’ in-game shortcomings, he has had other issues in 2014.

The team has played poor fundamental baseball, some of which (such as attempting to steal third base when a hold-sign should be on) can be prevented by the manager.

Collins sat center fielder Juan Lagares for four out of five games in May, and became confrontational with the media and took a shot at the fans when he was questioned. Collins also gave rambling, nonsensical responses when he was asked to provide a reason for benching Lagares.

Recently, Collins irritated David Wright by double switching him out of a close game late, and by refusing to put him in the lineup a day after Collins said that he would indeed allow Wright to play if the third baseman wished to.

Collins has also been erratic as far as the way he’s used his young starting pitchers. For example, he allowed Zack Wheeler to throw a career high number of pitches a few weeks ago (which is fine), but removed Wheeler a few days ago at just 86 pitches in what was a very odd move.

Regardless of what Sandy Alderson said on Tuesday, it’s impossible to believe that Collins’ job will be safe if the Mets continue to lose at the rate they’ve been losing lately.

Collins doesn’t bring much to the table from an in-game standpoint, has pretty much lost the fan base, and may be dealing with an increasingly testy clubhouse. Add to that continued losing, and you have a situation that is untenable.

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  • blastingzone

    I wanted Terry removed two years ago because he is the wrong manager to go forward
    with this team and take them to the next level! The mets never should have given him a
    two year extention over the winter because its almost impossible to see the Wilpons
    having to pay Terry for the rest of this year and next year while they pay a new manager
    at the same time but the rest of the year would have been a good test for Wally Backman
    to see if they should give him a new contract for the next few years or not? I have never
    liked Terry as a manager and I have always felt that even if the Wilpons were willing to
    spend a lot more money on FA’s and the mets had a much better line up that Terry still
    wouldn’t win because even if he had better players he wouldn’t know what to with them?

    • Ken Meoni

      I totally agree with you on Collins. As for Backman, as much as I would love to see him run this team, he won’t, even if he is selected the next manager. SA wants a yes man and Wally is not that. It would be interesting to see a confrontation between Wally and SA………something that will never happen with Collins. That’s why he likes his lap dog Collins. He just does what he is told. That’s what SA wants and that’s what the Wilpons want.

  • stealthird17

    Managers manage and bloggers blog.