Aug 18, 2013; San Diego, CA, USA; New York Mets manager Terry Collins (10) prior to the game against the San Diego Padres at Petco Park. Mandatory Credit: Christopher Hanewinckel-USA TODAY Sports

Quick Hits: Terry Collins and his Status

The New York Mets have been playing solid baseball for quite some time, but that doesn’t mean that Terry Collins has yet earned a managerial spot for 2014.

If the Mets do not collapse, it seems at best they will still be under .500 at the end of the season. They could easily go on stretch that brings them closer to 81 wins, but why should not collapsing be the thing that prevents Collins from getting let go? We shouldn’t compare everything about 1983 to 2013, but the Mets played very well in the 2nd half of 1983 and still let George Bamberger go.

I don’t know about you, but I look at Collins as a direct reason the Mets are STILL 9 games under .500. So many times they could have gone on longer winning streaks than “win 2, lose 2″ or “win 3, lose 1″ but because of some weird bullpen move or double-switch or whatever, Terry Collins has had Mets fans scratching their head and yelling at the screen in frustration, or typing away on #MetsTwitter.

Sure, we can keep pointing to talent, and saying he’s done the best with what he’s been given, but that’s a load a crap.

I do have a lot to say on the matter, and will explore it further in the coming days outside of this “Quick Hit.”

I WILL, however, say right now that if the Mets are still 9 or so games under .500 at the end of the year, mediocrity should not be rewarded by giving Terry Collins another shot.


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  • Joe_JP

    I think a few losses can be blamed on Collins but I think the team is where they are because they dug a deep hole before that Braves series & just don’t have the talent to get that much closer to .500. This doesn’t mean I think they should stick with Collins. But, since being a manager means various things, some bad calls alone should still not be the only thing we look at.

  • Herman_Metswille

    Unless the Mets can somehow finish within a few games of .500, I think Collins has to go. The guy has no imagination. You can usually predict all of his moves, and the ones you can’t predict are generally disastrous (like bringing in Greg Burke today in the 10th inning — I shuddered as soon as I saw that). This year’s club actually has some talent — I think the starting pitching has been exceptional, and the relief pitching at least is better than last year. The problem is that the Mets CAN’T HIT. When you can’t hit, you’ve got to play small ball, which requires some drilling in the fundamentals, which the Mets obviously haven’t done. That shortcoming is the fault of the manager.

    • hwy505

      He’s working with what he has – of course the game is made of variables – but the main variable is, if you don’t have the talent to compete with your adversaries, you’re going to fail. Collins is not at fault here.

  • Herman_Metswille

    I think the last two weeks have reinforced my belief that Collins must go. Actually, the Mets do have some talent, particularly in the starting pitching area, and they’ve even started to play small ball recently, scoring some runs. That leaves only Collins blunders, which are considerable. Tops is starting Daisuke Matsuzaka after three days rest and a mediocre minor league record, and continuing to start him despite his getting shelled each time. Second is not resting David Wright at the first sign of a hamstring problem. Third is mishandling of middle relief, putting in guys in critical situations who have a known record of inconsistency. And fourth is not starting to play small ball early in the season. Meanwhile, down on the farm, Wally Backman did a marvelous job at Vegas, taking a team that was 9 games under .500 in 2012 and leading them to an 81-62 record and a division championship, despite the fact that half his team was either sent up to the Mets or shuttled between Vegas and New York. The record of Pedro Lopez at Binghamton is even more impressive, going from 68-74 to 86-54. These guys have to be moved up. I know if Backman leads the Mets to the playoffs next year, people will says Collins just didn’t have the talent — but if that scenario occurs, who cares.