Two Mets Fans Spout Off


Sorry I’ve been dormant from the site for awhile. I’m going to restart the engine with a bang. Here is a “conversation” I had with fellow Mets diehard Mike Nitzky. My responses to his wants and wishes are in italics. I’d love for anyone to chime in on the topics we broached on how to move forward with this floundering franchise:

Mike: Get rid of Ollie Perez, if the cubs won’t take him & Luis Castillo, just trade 1 of them, I know they won’t cut him, because of the loss, but try and take on someone else’s concern like Carlos Zambrano or Gil Meche, etc…

I would love to be able to purge Ollie and Castillo, but I do not think they could even get rid of either for a bag of balls. That is unless they take on an equally inflated contract that is likely for more years. You are right to say ownership would never cut ties with either of these bums. Righting financial wrongs is not something in the Wilpons DNA. For that matter, the almighty dollar seems to be missing from the Mets genetic code as well.

Mike: Alex Cora. He only needs 20 more games to guarantee $2 for next year.  Cora has become Marlon Anderson the sequel. Let him play 15 more games, but then dfa him & bring up turner, Who is basically Jeff Keppinger light.

Yes Cora is a bum and they no doubt should have refrained from signing him to a two-year deal. Having seen him in the locker room setting, he does have value to this organization. In fact I would not be surprised if they are grooming him for some kind of coaching role. Cora doesn’t add much to the lineup offensively, but he is the least of this team’s woes.

Mike: Don’t sign anyone big, unless you can cut salary. This team has to pay a lot to Johan Santana, Carlos Beltran, Jason Bay & K-Rod. Don’t make it worse.

This third item contains words which I think many Mets fans would have trouble swallowing. It would essentially mean ownership is refusing to give back to the fans who are filling their coffers and seats. You are right to say that this team has made its bed based on the big money and long-term contracts they have on the books. Yet, no good organization passes up the chance to better itself (see: the NY Yankees at the trade deadline) if the opportunity is presented. If by some stroke of madness Cliff Lee desperately wanted to come to Flushing next season and the Mets passed because they weren’t willing to make an investment in someone who could bring them future riches, that would constitute heresy in my book. Then again, Jeff Wilpon being in charge of an MLB baseball team is effectively heresy.

Mike: Let the kids play. I would like to see Fernando Martinez in the majors & given one of the corner positions. If he is up to the task, explore trading him or pagan, who is at his ceiling in value.

How many damn years have we been have we been uttering that line. Thankfully, there are actually a few kids who are inspiring good feelings right now in Ike Davis and Jon Niese. I agree on F-Mart. Despite some setbacks and a downgrade in expectation level, Martinez should be given a shot next year, just not at the expense of displacing Angel Pagan in any manner. It has finally all clicked for this very talented athlete (with athlete being the operative word) and the Mets may have struck gold on this one.

Mike: Don’t resign Rod Barajas. Josh Thole is fine behind the plate & is a patient hitter, who can Take pitches, possibly a grt 8 or 2 hitter. Bring back Henry Blanco for day games but for less than $1m.

You are spot in with your take on the catchers. While the ceiling may not be incredibly lofty for Thole, he could be an asset to a lineup as a high average guy who works the count and wears out the opposing pitcher. Rod Barajas, we loved what your mighty cuts a few months back…when the ball was going out of the park instead of the catchers mitt. The bell tolls my friend and it tolls for you. Buh Bye.

Mike: Fire Howard Johinson, this is the most unlikely of scenarios because he is a beloved met, but it’s time to let go.

They may actually follow through on this one Mike. There really seems to be no choice at this point. Too bad it will have been about two years too late. Anyone not named HoJo who had presided over as many offensive dry spells as he has, would have been giving his walking papers long ago. Yet another example of organizational disfunction

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  • maristke

    I agree with some of the points that Mike makes but I have a few suggestions of my own. If the Mets want to contend against the Phils and Braves these next few weeks and stay in the season they need to do a few things. 1. Cut dead weight, 2. embrace the now players (maybe, maybe not the future) and not the contracts, 3. stop with the pipe dreams about “prospects”

    1. Get rid of Perez, he is a team cancer in performance, finance and he is infecting the clubhouse. Get rid of him, set him free to explore his options if he refuses to go to the minors. He is only causing more harm then good. Bring up someone who has something to offer. Pat Misch could take his position and alternate starts with Takahashi and play the hot hand. Misch deserved to make the team in the spring and is 10-4 with a 3.24 era in buffalo… bring him up NOW. Mets only have 25 spots and ot have a cancer like Perez taking up a spot is untolerable.

    2. Bench the guys who are not playing to their potential. It is August, if their season hasn’t gotten to where they “should be playing” to then sit them. I dont want to see someone struggling due to the amount of money they make if someone else can play better. Im looking at you Castillo hitting 234 in August. I hate that he gets a pass at the plate because thats the type of hitter he is. FALSE. There is no other type like him, it is only him who is a pro athlete who cannot hit the ball out of the infield. He is the only pro position player in the entire game that physically cant hit a sac fly because he cant get a ball out of the infield. We have Tejada and Turner both playing extremely well in the minors and they both showed some spark of hitting in the big leagues. Bench Castillo and bring them up . Hessman doesnt need nor deserve a spot on the bench over one of these hard working kids who can play everyday. If they need a day off here and there …sure bring in Castillo. They may not be the stars of the future but they can get the job done today and at this point of the season it is all that matters.

    Bay although hurt at the moment is also not playing to his potential therefore should not be starting everyday when he is healthy. He should be platooning, I dont care what he has done in years past, if he isnt performing this year and hasnt yet and its august … time to grab some bench son because your 2009 stats arent doing anything for this team now. He hasnt earned his starting spot over anyone.He is just lucky Frenchy is slumping hard and Feliciano hasnt panned out offensively in the big leagues like he did in the minors. I hate this culture of contracts determining who takes the field. You don’t play well… you don’t play.

    Finally I am sick and tired of hearing the Mets talk about future studs. They do such a good job of selling their minor league up and comers to other teams that they actually start believing it themselves. I am sick and tired of hearing how great F Mart is. He simply is not and he should be used as trade bait now while anyone believes he still has any potential. He is a Carloz Gomez twin with more injuries. Im sure he could be a great player in the future he would have to stay healthy and actually play baseball on a high level. Mets are constantly inflating kids like Mejia (once noted as potentially the next Riveria), Murphy, F Mart(Carlos Beltran Lite), Milledge and they tend to not pan out. YES they landed Wright, Reyes and Ike but they all are not those three. Focus on developing fundamentals in Tejada and Thole instead of hyping up guys that never live up to potential and ruin their trade possibilities.

    I love this team and they need a huge road trip to stay in it this season. I just hope that if they do get rid of HoJo they bring in Backman for him just to let Manual the pressure is on.